Sun Neptune Connections

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To understand the concept of Sun Neptune connections we first have to go back into the past for a moment.

In the early 1980s a "new" approach of assessing major themes in a natal chart saw the light by the "invention" of the so-called "ZIP Code."

It was a method invented by Dr. Zipporah Dobyns (hence the name "ZIP Code") and further propagated by her daughter Maritha Pottenger, that made use of the so-called astrological alphabet.

The concept of the astrological alphabet is that astrology deals with twelve basic ways of being, twelve human drives and modes of operation that are all needed in this world.

These twelve sides of life are mirrored in the natal chart by a planet, a house and a sign.

So it is in the astrological alphabet that Mars, the 1st house and Aries all share the same principles (though they are NOT the same!).

Venus, the 2nd house and Taurus also share the same principles and this goes on for the other planets, signs and houses.

What the theory of the ZIP Code or astrological alphabet presents is that certain groups of planet/house/sign combinations share similar themes.

For example: Mars in Libra or Mars in the 7th house share the same principles. The 7th house is in mundane astrology a Libra house (whatever zodiac sign is on the cusp of the 7th house in the natal chart).

This system has been enhanced by German astrologers who developed their own system based on the same principles but they converted the signs and houses to their respective planetary rulers.

For example: Mars in Libra becomes a Mars/Venus theme because Venus always rules Libra. Mars in the 7th house too becomes a Mars/Venus theme because the 7th house is associated with Libra, which is ruled by Venus in mundane astrology.

Also, the ruler of the 1st house (in mundane astrology ruled by Mars because Mars always rules Aries and Aries is always the 1st sign in the natural order of the zodiac) in the 2nd house (in mundane astrology ruled by Venus as the ruler of Taurus) is another Venus-Mars analogy.

The more you find such analogies, themes or connections between two planets, the more this planetary combination becomes an important part of the natal chart and the life of the native.

To find out the connections or analogies between planets, we take especially into account:

  • planets in zodiac signs
  • planets in houses
  • the aspects between planets (the tighter the stronger)
  • the rulerships
  • solstice points

Planets in houses are more important and powerful than the planets in the zodiac signs because they work on a more personal and individual level (we use the Topocentric house system which gives almost the same results as the Placidus house system).

When do we have Sun Neptune connections, themes or analogies?

In most cases, the following configurations are used (there are more though (!) to define Sun Neptune connections but this would lead us too far and make it more complicated than necessary):

  • Neptune in the 5th house
  • the Sun in the 12th house
  • the ruler of the 5th house in the 12th house
  • the ruler of the 12th house in the 5th house
  • the Sun in a close conjunction, square or opposition with Neptune (a very exact sextile or trine counts too but in a minor way)
  • Neptune at the solstice point of the Sun
  • the Sun in Pisces
  • Neptune in Leo

When at least three of the above listed analogies or connections can be found in the natal chart, we have a very powerful Sun Neptune connection that will be felt and noticed in the character and life of the native.

What do Sun Neptune connections signify?

We discussed the topic of astrological indications pointing to power conflicts in relationships (in the widest sense).

Empirical research has found that the Sun Neptune connection can be one of the culprits.

Time and again the Sun Neptune connections have proven to be a huge part of the problem.

If you have a predominant natal Sun Neptune connection beware of people of the same gender, that seemingly and in-suspiciously are good friends or co-workers or bosses or lovers.

You may as well have befriended or met a Trojan horse that will reveal itself in a huge and disruptive, even destructive way sooner or later.

In this way, friendship or even love will turn into hate and it will be too late before you even notice it.

The Neptune part of this connection relates to the secret and sneaky part of the influence that will only surface when you're already in BIG trouble.

People with powerful Sun Neptune connections seem not to be able to read the minds and intentions of people of the same gender and fall into a trap easily.

This connection points to jealousy, tense competition, coming from the other person (of the same gender).

It's as if the person with the natal Sun Neptune connections subconsciously triggers some demons in the other person of the same gender.

Keep your eyes and intuition open as much as possible if you have this connection in the natal chart, because you will hardly be able to escape the working behind your back and treacherous acts by the other person.

A powerful Sun Neptune connection reflects the psychological mechanism of what is called "the Herod effect."

This mechanism refers to the story of King Herod who heard about the alleged birth of another "King."

Because Herod wanted to be sure he was and remained the one and only King, he decided that all male babies (persons of the same gender) should be killed/murdered so that nobody could ever compete with and even become a threat to him.

Hence, this psychological mechanism suggests there can only be one person of and in authority, "the real King/Queen."

This mechanism works out on many levels: in families between fathers and sons or between mothers and daughters, at the workplace between bosses and co-workers, in governments between citizens and rulers but also between leaders of state of the same gender etc.

This mechanism does not allow any competition at all and those who tend to become stronger, smarter, "better", richer, etc. become dangerous and a threat in the eyes of "the King/Queen" so that other psychological mechanisms are triggered (like blind anger, rage, jealousy, etc.) and power conflicts are born.

That is why, whenever someone starts to get noticed and attracts (more) attention because of his/her knowledge, money, intelligence or other traits that may endanger the "power" of "the real King/Queen", the "real King/Queen" starts to get in a compulsive obsessive drive to destroy and "kill" the alleged or perceived competitor/threat (most often the person with powerful Sun Neptune connections).

Hence, powerful Sun Neptune connections are often found in natal charts of those who are the victim of such power conflicts.

Also, this connection is often found in natal charts of people who love to act or play a role.

Neptune works like a veil, hiding one's real intentions, attitude and identity (represented by the Sun) and acting is a very good tool to hide or mask oneself.

People with powerful Sun Neptune connections often feel uncomfortable about their identity and even their gender and they look for mechanisms or methods to cope with that by taking on another role, "hide it", put on a neutral mask (and they even might hide physical gender-related characteristics).

There is at times identity confusion going on.

Using a nickname may be applicable too.

People with Sun Neptune connections are helpful, love to be of service -- which is in some instances also the reflection of a lack of self-worth though.

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