Derivative Houses Representing Persons and Relationships

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We, at Cosmic Technologies, have written different articles about what is considered a very difficult and complicated topic in astrology: the derivative houses, often called derived or 'turned' houses too.

This method was originally used in horary astrology (the astrology of answering questions based on drawing a horoscope for the exact time of birth of a concrete question).

We previously wrote about the natal houses defining the different marriage partners (finding the houses in the natal horoscope wheel that describe all the different marriage partners or marriages) and also about the 12th derivative house pointing what or who you can't stand.

In this article we want to discuss how this derivative houses method is able to let you find other people and relationships in your life when reading your horoscope wheel.

By determining which houses are the principal rulers of the persons or relationships you want to describe, you are able to tell a more detailed and expanded story.

The basic assumption and even premise is based on the following:

  • the 1st house represents the fundamental SELF
  • the 3rd house represents siblings but also a neighbor
  • the 4th house represents the parent of the same sex
  • the 5th house represents a child, but also a lover
  • the 6th house represents a co-worker
  • the 7th house represents a partner (in the widest sense)
  • the 9th house represents a foreigner
  • the 10th house represents the parent of the opposite sex
  • the 11th house represents a friend

You may have noticed that the financial and material 2nd-8th houses are, as far as we have uncovered, basically not related to any person or relationship.

You can take any of these aforementioned houses, representing a person or relationship as the 1st house to tell something about that person.

For example: if you want to know more about a child, take the 5th house in the horoscope wheel and assign this the 1st house.

In other words, turn the horoscope wheel as it were and put the 5th house on the position of the 1st house because you want to delineate the fundamental SELF (1st house) of a child (5th house).

If you want to know more about a sibling of the child, count 3 houses from the 5th house, beginning with the 5th house, because siblings are 3rd house matters.

Hence, when the 5th house is positioned as the 1st house, the 3rd house counting from the 5th house brings us to the 7th house.

So, the 7th house is assigned to the sibling of the child.

Let's take another example: if you want to know about a sibling of the partner you must first of all look at the house of the partner, which is the 7th house.

Then position the 7th house (turn the horoscope wheel) so that it becomes the 1st house.

You then count three houses (siblings are represented by the 3rd house) from the 7th house (beginning with this house as if it's the 1st house), which brings you to the 9th house that will tell something about the partner's siblings (brother-in-law or sister-in-law).

If you want to know about the partner's own children, count 5 houses from the 7th house to arrive at the 11th house.

Hence, the 11th house represents the stepchildren (children of the partner).

If you want to know about a child from a sister-in-law, count 5 houses (the child) from the 9th house (sibling of the partner).

Yet another example: if you want to find out about a friend's child, first of all take the 11th house of friends and take that as the 1st house, turn the horoscope wheel so that the 11th house is positioned as the 1st house (which describes the fundamental SELF of the friend).

Because children are part of the 5th house meanings, count 5 houses beginning with the 11th house and arrive at the 3rd house.

So, the 3rd house will describe the friend's child.

When delineating houses in the natal horoscope wheel, in the solar return horoscopes or any other progressed or directed horoscopes, take this method into account and be open-minded as to what the outcome may be.

This makes astrology more complex and makes it difficult to find out beforehand how the house meaning will work out in reality or in practice.

We recommend to not overuse the derivative houses method though, and primarily stick to the basic meanings of the houses, connected to your own life (SELF) and only proceed further if necessary.


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